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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-83045</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 15:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/23/barclays-terrible-ba.html&quot; title=&quot;Barclay&#039;s terrible bank-security  - Boing Boing&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Barclay&#039;s terrible bank-security&lt;/a&gt;
By Cory Doctorow

Security expert Ben &quot;OpenSSL&quot; Laurie went into a Barclay&#039;s bank to transfer a large sum of money (&quot;enough money to fund a small country&quot;) and discovered an incredibly lax, brittle security system that focused on meeting compliance requirements instead of keeping deposits safe. I&#039;m in the process of switching from Barclay&#039;s to the Co-Op, after years of frustration, insane fees, and terrible service. The Co-Op has its own security issues (they won&#039;t let you use random passwords, instead forcing you to use much-more-easily hacked passwords that contain no repeated characters) but they&#039;re nowhere near as bad as Barclay&#039;s.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/10/23/barclays-terrible-ba.html" title="Barclay's terrible bank-security  - Boing Boing" rel="nofollow">Barclay&#8217;s terrible bank-security</a><br />
By Cory Doctorow</p>
<p>Security expert Ben &#8220;OpenSSL&#8221; Laurie went into a Barclay&#8217;s bank to transfer a large sum of money (&#8220;enough money to fund a small country&#8221;) and discovered an incredibly lax, brittle security system that focused on meeting compliance requirements instead of keeping deposits safe. I&#8217;m in the process of switching from Barclay&#8217;s to the Co-Op, after years of frustration, insane fees, and terrible service. The Co-Op has its own security issues (they won&#8217;t let you use random passwords, instead forcing you to use much-more-easily hacked passwords that contain no repeated characters) but they&#8217;re nowhere near as bad as Barclay&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-15707</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 May 2007 16:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A new lot of reputation cleansers seem to be at work.

&#039;Discovery One&#039;

Their web portal can be seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://81.19.183.7/fcgi/discoveryone.fcgi&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new lot of reputation cleansers seem to be at work.</p>
<p>&#8216;Discovery One&#8217;</p>
<p>Their web portal can be seen <a href="http://81.19.183.7/fcgi/discoveryone.fcgi" rel="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When only the high-carbon option works</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-12558</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When only the high-carbon option works</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 00:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] were Eurostar&#8217;s or NatWest&#8217;s fault. In the latter case, they have sunk even deeper in my estimation. In the former case, they lost a customer because their web interface is unreliable. It failed at [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] were Eurostar&#8217;s or NatWest&#8217;s fault. In the latter case, they have sunk even deeper in my estimation. In the former case, they lost a customer because their web interface is unreliable. It failed at [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-12008</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Mar 2007 18:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BBC hidden-camera investigation discovers that big banks are open and honest, run purely in the customer&#039;s interest. Just kidding -- &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=442452007&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;they&#039;re screwing you like a whore at happy hour&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BBC hidden-camera investigation discovers that big banks are open and honest, run purely in the customer&#8217;s interest. Just kidding &#8212; <a href="http://news.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=442452007" rel="nofollow">they&#8217;re screwing you like a whore at happy hour</a></p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-10401</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Feb 2007 13:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a cheque from Canada for about $300. Much as I hate to pay Natwest $23.91 to process it (at a poor exchange rate), it seems a better option than mailing it to Vancouver, having one my parents deposit it in a Canadian bank, and then send it over the next time I wire money across for fees of $60 from the Bank of Montreal and about $20 from Natwest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a cheque from Canada for about $300. Much as I hate to pay Natwest $23.91 to process it (at a poor exchange rate), it seems a better option than mailing it to Vancouver, having one my parents deposit it in a Canadian bank, and then send it over the next time I wire money across for fees of $60 from the Bank of Montreal and about $20 from Natwest.</p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Creepy stuff</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-3340</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Creepy stuff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Who runs http://www.vroomfondel.co.uk? Also, why do they keep scanning through my blog? They do so through this page and seem particularly interested in anything involving NatWest: the bank where I foolishly opened an international student account. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Who runs <a href="http://www.vroomfondel.co.uk?" rel="nofollow">http://www.vroomfondel.co.uk?</a> Also, why do they keep scanning through my blog? They do so through this page and seem particularly interested in anything involving NatWest: the bank where I foolishly opened an international student account. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-1569</link>
		<dc:creator>milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Apr 2006 08:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some kind of public relations agency seems to have accessed this page several times.

Perhaps they are from NatWest, and will improve some of the worse things about their bank. Perhaps they are from a competitor, and will be able to capitalize off of how bad a bank NatWest is.

I don&#039;t know the name of the firm, but their domain (vroomfondel.co.uk) is registered as:

c/o Net Rank
Suite 1c, Western Way,
Exeter,
Devon
EX1 2DE
GB</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some kind of public relations agency seems to have accessed this page several times.</p>
<p>Perhaps they are from NatWest, and will improve some of the worse things about their bank. Perhaps they are from a competitor, and will be able to capitalize off of how bad a bank NatWest is.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know the name of the firm, but their domain (vroomfondel.co.uk) is registered as:</p>
<p>c/o Net Rank<br />
Suite 1c, Western Way,<br />
Exeter,<br />
Devon<br />
EX1 2DE<br />
GB</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-1568</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been literally astounded from time to time by how ineffective and unhelpful NatWest can be. They are worse than Toronto Dominion Bank in Canada, where I closed my account in disgust before moving to the Bank of Montreal.

I&#039;ve tried the &quot;Payments-&gt;Make Payment-&gt;Add a new payee&quot; approach, and it doesn&#039;t list anything at all in the dropdown menu that appears.

In a similar vein, my savings account will not come up as a potential account to transfer into, in that drop down menu. The website therefore allows me to move money from savings to chequing, but not the other way around.

Thanks for the information on other savings accounts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve been literally astounded from time to time by how ineffective and unhelpful NatWest can be. They are worse than Toronto Dominion Bank in Canada, where I closed my account in disgust before moving to the Bank of Montreal.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve tried the &#8220;Payments-&gt;Make Payment-&gt;Add a new payee&#8221; approach, and it doesn&#8217;t list anything at all in the dropdown menu that appears.</p>
<p>In a similar vein, my savings account will not come up as a potential account to transfer into, in that drop down menu. The website therefore allows me to move money from savings to chequing, but not the other way around.</p>
<p>Thanks for the information on other savings accounts.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:08:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m surprised you&#039;re having so much trouble with NatWest&#039;s online banking - I&#039;ve found it to be easier to use than Barclays and Nationwide&#039;s services.

I don&#039;t know why you&#039;re having such trouble with paying your credit card bill. NatWest doesn&#039;t have to do anything to set it up. Just go to Payments-&gt;Make Payment-&gt;Add a new payee and select the appropriate card from the drop down list. Works fine for me.

Forgetting to pay interest is very bad. I would recommend you shop around for a savings account - what you get from a high street bank like NatWest is always going to be a bad deal. Try some of the accounts listed &lt;a href=&quot;http://money.guardian.co.uk/compareandbuy/bestbuys/savings/0,16800,1639349,00.html&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m surprised you&#8217;re having so much trouble with NatWest&#8217;s online banking &#8211; I&#8217;ve found it to be easier to use than Barclays and Nationwide&#8217;s services.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why you&#8217;re having such trouble with paying your credit card bill. NatWest doesn&#8217;t have to do anything to set it up. Just go to Payments-&gt;Make Payment-&gt;Add a new payee and select the appropriate card from the drop down list. Works fine for me.</p>
<p>Forgetting to pay interest is very bad. I would recommend you shop around for a savings account &#8211; what you get from a high street bank like NatWest is always going to be a bad deal. Try some of the accounts listed <a href="http://money.guardian.co.uk/compareandbuy/bestbuys/savings/0,16800,1639349,00.html">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-1566</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

If I can convince ten people to start banking elsewhere, I will consider myself revenged against them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>If I can convince ten people to start banking elsewhere, I will consider myself revenged against them.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-1565</link>
		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Their high-profile TV commercials, which claim they have a &quot;better way&quot; than other banks - which they then list the defects of - has always put me off, because I always associate the defects with the banks that&#039;s named in the commercial, viz. NatWest.

I&#039;m not very good target material for TV commerc ials, apparently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Their high-profile TV commercials, which claim they have a &#8220;better way&#8221; than other banks &#8211; which they then list the defects of &#8211; has always put me off, because I always associate the defects with the banks that&#8217;s named in the commercial, viz. NatWest.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not very good target material for TV commerc ials, apparently.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Jubb</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/03/14/natwest-a-very-poor-bank-indeed/#comment-1563</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Jubb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Co-op, although it was an arse actually setting up the account, have basically been very good to me since: decent online banking, ethical investment policy, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Co-op, although it was an arse actually setting up the account, have basically been very good to me since: decent online banking, ethical investment policy, etc&#8230;</p>
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