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		<title>By: cullion.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; delmoi: a face full of egg</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-2060</link>
		<dc:creator>cullion.net &#187; Blog Archive &#187; delmoi: a face full of egg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 May 2006 05:08:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Our main man delmoi had a rough six minutes in today&#8217;s Darfur thread.  In the course of the discussion, sindark pointed out &#8220;a chilling portrayal of the ongoing violence in Sudan in the film The Constant Gardener,&#8221; and cited a related article in his weblog.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Our main man delmoi had a rough six minutes in today&#8217;s Darfur thread.  In the course of the discussion, sindark pointed out &#8220;a chilling portrayal of the ongoing violence in Sudan in the film The Constant Gardener,&#8221; and cited a related article in his weblog.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: S</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-2058</link>
		<dc:creator>S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 May 2006 23:22:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just came by through metafilter. 
Thought you might also want to check out &lt;i&gt;Lord of War&lt;/i&gt; (starring Nicholas Cage).
Race Against Time was quite a read -- seeing the man himself delivering the lectures was a whole other thing. Mr Lewis is one of my heros.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just came by through metafilter.<br />
Thought you might also want to check out <i>Lord of War</i> (starring Nicholas Cage).<br />
Race Against Time was quite a read &#8212; seeing the man himself delivering the lectures was a whole other thing. Mr Lewis is one of my heros.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1917</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone believe for a second that a big pharma company would release a drug that they knew was lethal in many cases into the American and Western European market? Especially in the States, the resulting lawsuits would doubtless negate any profits they might make.

One guy in this film says the pharma companies are bad as the arms traders, but aside from this murder - which I really don&#039;t buy - they don&#039;t offer much evidence for that. The sins of pharma are probably more neglect of the poor world than active harm being caused there - something Heckler and Koch or IMI really cannot claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone believe for a second that a big pharma company would release a drug that they knew was lethal in many cases into the American and Western European market? Especially in the States, the resulting lawsuits would doubtless negate any profits they might make.</p>
<p>One guy in this film says the pharma companies are bad as the arms traders, but aside from this murder &#8211; which I really don&#8217;t buy &#8211; they don&#8217;t offer much evidence for that. The sins of pharma are probably more neglect of the poor world than active harm being caused there &#8211; something Heckler and Koch or IMI really cannot claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1916</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kerrie,

People in the room actually laughed out loud at the cheesiness of the heckler to bedmate progression between Weisz and Fiennes. I also did not find her response to the Iraq war to be a particular clever one, or one suiting her supposed character. It reminded me of the Prime Minister&#039;s speech at the end of &lt;I&gt;Love Actually&lt;/I&gt;, which sounded like the wild fantasy of some anti-American British leftist, rather than something a politician would ever actually say. I also felt as though the scene and dynamic were inspired to some extent by the classroom interchange between Russell Crowe and Jennifer Connoly in &lt;I&gt;A Beautiful Mind&lt;/I&gt;. There was a similar dynamic of spirited young female student and relatively wooden older professo. and subsequently husband.

As for Weisz&#039;s character not achieving her goals because of emotion, she actually seems to do a pretty good job, doesn&#039;t she? With minimal support she writes a report damaging enough to lead to all the rest of what happens. Her failure, as I recall, was the result of a not-terribly-implausible betrayal, followed by a less plausible and decidedly brutal corporate response.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kerrie,</p>
<p>People in the room actually laughed out loud at the cheesiness of the heckler to bedmate progression between Weisz and Fiennes. I also did not find her response to the Iraq war to be a particular clever one, or one suiting her supposed character. It reminded me of the Prime Minister&#8217;s speech at the end of <i>Love Actually</i>, which sounded like the wild fantasy of some anti-American British leftist, rather than something a politician would ever actually say. I also felt as though the scene and dynamic were inspired to some extent by the classroom interchange between Russell Crowe and Jennifer Connoly in <i>A Beautiful Mind</i>. There was a similar dynamic of spirited young female student and relatively wooden older professo. and subsequently husband.</p>
<p>As for Weisz&#8217;s character not achieving her goals because of emotion, she actually seems to do a pretty good job, doesn&#8217;t she? With minimal support she writes a report damaging enough to lead to all the rest of what happens. Her failure, as I recall, was the result of a not-terribly-implausible betrayal, followed by a less plausible and decidedly brutal corporate response.</p>
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		<title>By: R.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1915</link>
		<dc:creator>R.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 19:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The portrayal of rape in film is quite the macabre subject. Even so, I suppose it&#039;s analytically interesting. Remember how in &#039;28 Days Later,&#039; the female lead tries to kill both herself and the teenage girl under her protection, rather than be sexually assaulted by the soldiers? Perhaps that relates to the &#039;damaged goods&#039; issue you raise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The portrayal of rape in film is quite the macabre subject. Even so, I suppose it&#8217;s analytically interesting. Remember how in &#8217;28 Days Later,&#8217; the female lead tries to kill both herself and the teenage girl under her protection, rather than be sexually assaulted by the soldiers? Perhaps that relates to the &#8216;damaged goods&#8217; issue you raise.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerrie</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1914</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*spoilers alert here* I felt the film was also a little cheesy in some ways. After this woman&#039;s death basically every single thing she has ever been perceived to have done wrong turns out to be totally not the case-they go out of their way to exonerate her of every possible flaw.

Also I felt there was a (I&#039;m sorry but I watched this right after my Women in Literature final) cheesy gender subtext going on. Rachel Weisz is the principled saint (as women are so often portrayed) whose emotions and lack of control just keep her from acheiving her goals...I mean she is supposed to be an Amnesty Reporter and she starts crying in the middle of a press conference? come on! Do you think Alison Forges  of Human Rights Watch just breaks down because she can&#039;t handle a confrontation with those big, scary, smart men? I don&#039;t think so.

Finally, have you ever noticed that when, in film (sometimes literature too), a man&#039;s wife gets killed, they throw in a rape for good measure? (Happened in Gladiator, that film that went backwards I forget the name of, etc). This means he is EXTRA justified in seeking revenge on the baddies. But if the woman belonging to the man lives, she never gets raped, she always just manages to escape or be rescued. That way she isn&#039;t &#039;damaged goods&#039; for the man to have to deal with. 

Maybe if we keep pretending the world works that way, men will NEVER have to confront global rape as a problem they are connected to? Because in Hollywood, every time it happens to a woman *belonging* to a man she just disappears, for his convenience-and all of ours.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*spoilers alert here* I felt the film was also a little cheesy in some ways. After this woman&#8217;s death basically every single thing she has ever been perceived to have done wrong turns out to be totally not the case-they go out of their way to exonerate her of every possible flaw.</p>
<p>Also I felt there was a (I&#8217;m sorry but I watched this right after my Women in Literature final) cheesy gender subtext going on. Rachel Weisz is the principled saint (as women are so often portrayed) whose emotions and lack of control just keep her from acheiving her goals&#8230;I mean she is supposed to be an Amnesty Reporter and she starts crying in the middle of a press conference? come on! Do you think Alison Forges  of Human Rights Watch just breaks down because she can&#8217;t handle a confrontation with those big, scary, smart men? I don&#8217;t think so.</p>
<p>Finally, have you ever noticed that when, in film (sometimes literature too), a man&#8217;s wife gets killed, they throw in a rape for good measure? (Happened in Gladiator, that film that went backwards I forget the name of, etc). This means he is EXTRA justified in seeking revenge on the baddies. But if the woman belonging to the man lives, she never gets raped, she always just manages to escape or be rescued. That way she isn&#8217;t &#8216;damaged goods&#8217; for the man to have to deal with. </p>
<p>Maybe if we keep pretending the world works that way, men will NEVER have to confront global rape as a problem they are connected to? Because in Hollywood, every time it happens to a woman *belonging* to a man she just disappears, for his convenience-and all of ours.</p>
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		<title>By: B</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1913</link>
		<dc:creator>B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suspect that a lot of these accolades are just a manifestation of the fundamental male appreciation for the super-curvaceous pregnant female form. That said, I&#039;ve only heard the film described and never seen it myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suspect that a lot of these accolades are just a manifestation of the fundamental male appreciation for the super-curvaceous pregnant female form. That said, I&#8217;ve only heard the film described and never seen it myself.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1912</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The plot is not that far fetched as I was informed by a sibling who works for a major drug company. 

Weisz was magnificent and deserved the Oscar.

-Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The plot is not that far fetched as I was informed by a sibling who works for a major drug company. </p>
<p>Weisz was magnificent and deserved the Oscar.</p>
<p>-Sean</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1911</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, on all counts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, on all counts.</p>
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		<title>By: R.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1910</link>
		<dc:creator>R.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and the haunting theme music. And Weisz.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the haunting theme music. And Weisz.</p>
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		<title>By: R.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1909</link>
		<dc:creator>R.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 06:33:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best thing about the film is the totally believable car chase. It was a brilliant in-your-face rebuke to every film where a scientist or diplomat suddenly becomes an action star.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing about the film is the totally believable car chase. It was a brilliant in-your-face rebuke to every film where a scientist or diplomat suddenly becomes an action star.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2006/04/26/the-constant-gardener/#comment-1908</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 05:38:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a trivial side note, &lt;a HREF=&quot;http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4369708&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Economist&lt;/A&gt; is also right to say: “The Constant Gardener” is the film that will make you fall in love with Rachel Weisz.

I tend to read their reviews of things after I see them, in order to make sure they are still being fairly intelligent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a trivial side note, <a HREF="http://www.economist.com/displaystory.cfm?story_id=4369708" rel="nofollow">The Economist</a> is also right to say: “The Constant Gardener” is the film that will make you fall in love with Rachel Weisz.</p>
<p>I tend to read their reviews of things after I see them, in order to make sure they are still being fairly intelligent.</p>
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