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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2007/10/30/problems-with-ethanol-as-a-fuel/#comment-114938</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 21:59:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>IT IS bad enough that Republicans and Democrats are so divided on how much to spend and tax. But if you want to feel really gloomy about America’s ability to tackle its deficit, consider the ideological, almost theological, arguments about tax that are taking place within the Republican camp itself. In the past few weeks these have been revealed in all their dreadful clarity by an esoteric debate about the tax break for ethanol.

To balance the budget you can spend less or tax more. The Republicans are allergic to tax increases, and since their capture of the House of Representatives in November’s mid-term elections have succeeded in focusing the debate almost exclusively on what should be cut. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/node/18529711?story_id=18529711&quot; title=&quot;Lexington: The fiscal purists go mad &#124; The Economist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;One bit of spending that has caught the eye of Tom Coburn, the Republican senator for Oklahoma, is the $6 billion a year the government doles out in tax breaks to refiners who blend ethanol into their petrol.&lt;/a&gt; By general consent, this is not money well spent. Farmers may relish receiving taxpayers’ money to grow the corn that goes into ethanol, but corn-based ethanol is not the green fuel it is cracked up to be. Almost as much energy is used to make it as when it is burned. Here, you would think, is one subsidy that any Republican fiscal conservative in his right mind would want to get rid of.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IT IS bad enough that Republicans and Democrats are so divided on how much to spend and tax. But if you want to feel really gloomy about America’s ability to tackle its deficit, consider the ideological, almost theological, arguments about tax that are taking place within the Republican camp itself. In the past few weeks these have been revealed in all their dreadful clarity by an esoteric debate about the tax break for ethanol.</p>
<p>To balance the budget you can spend less or tax more. The Republicans are allergic to tax increases, and since their capture of the House of Representatives in November’s mid-term elections have succeeded in focusing the debate almost exclusively on what should be cut. <a href="http://www.economist.com/node/18529711?story_id=18529711" title="Lexington: The fiscal purists go mad | The Economist" rel="nofollow">One bit of spending that has caught the eye of Tom Coburn, the Republican senator for Oklahoma, is the $6 billion a year the government doles out in tax breaks to refiners who blend ethanol into their petrol.</a> By general consent, this is not money well spent. Farmers may relish receiving taxpayers’ money to grow the corn that goes into ethanol, but corn-based ethanol is not the green fuel it is cracked up to be. Almost as much energy is used to make it as when it is burned. Here, you would think, is one subsidy that any Republican fiscal conservative in his right mind would want to get rid of.</p>
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		<title>By: Palm oil</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2007/10/30/problems-with-ethanol-as-a-fuel/#comment-91895</link>
		<dc:creator>Palm oil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jul 2010 11:15:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] climate change to ban palm oil from former rainforest as an acceptable fuel. It is even worse than the very poor option of ethanol from corn, even before you take into account issues of international [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] climate change to ban palm oil from former rainforest as an acceptable fuel. It is even worse than the very poor option of ethanol from corn, even before you take into account issues of international [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2007/10/30/problems-with-ethanol-as-a-fuel/#comment-88402</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 17:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was reading recently that many US states have laws that don&#039;t require stations to advertise if there is ethanol in fuel provided it is less than 10%. This poses a problem for small aircraft owners who use automobile gasoline in their planes, as the STC (supplemental type certificate, a document that legally allows them to use the alternative fuel) specifically prohibits ethanol blended fuels. The reason the fuel can&#039;t be used is because of unreliable range planning (the lower energy content of the fuel means the plane consumes more than &#039;book&#039; value to fly any given distance) and problems with vapour-lock due to a lower boiling point.

The reason it may be desirable to use car gas in a small plane is
A) cost
B)  reduced problems that come with using unleaded gas (fouled spark plugs).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was reading recently that many US states have laws that don&#8217;t require stations to advertise if there is ethanol in fuel provided it is less than 10%. This poses a problem for small aircraft owners who use automobile gasoline in their planes, as the STC (supplemental type certificate, a document that legally allows them to use the alternative fuel) specifically prohibits ethanol blended fuels. The reason the fuel can&#8217;t be used is because of unreliable range planning (the lower energy content of the fuel means the plane consumes more than &#8216;book&#8217; value to fly any given distance) and problems with vapour-lock due to a lower boiling point.</p>
<p>The reason it may be desirable to use car gas in a small plane is<br />
A) cost<br />
B)  reduced problems that come with using unleaded gas (fouled spark plugs).</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Apr 2010 15:43:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The EPA has been forced to slash its 2010 mandate for the most widely touted of the non-corn biofuels, cellulosic ethanol, from 100m gallons to just 6.5m, less than a thousandth of the 11 billion gallons produced from corn in 2009.

The fact that corn-ethanol production has continued to grow, despite the failure of a number of firms in late 2008 and early 2009, points to the efficacy of the various protections and subsidies it enjoys (falling maize prices helped too), though it says nothing about their efficiency or wisdom. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/business-finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15773820&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ethanol, which is used mainly as an additive to petrol, is not a particularly good fuel&lt;/a&gt;: it offers only about two-thirds as much energy as petrol and can corrode pipelines and car engines. By 2014 or earlier, ethanol production is expected to reach 10% of America’s total fuel demand, and thus to hit a “blend wall”, since the EPA does not at present allow blends of more than 10% for mainstream use.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The EPA has been forced to slash its 2010 mandate for the most widely touted of the non-corn biofuels, cellulosic ethanol, from 100m gallons to just 6.5m, less than a thousandth of the 11 billion gallons produced from corn in 2009.</p>
<p>The fact that corn-ethanol production has continued to grow, despite the failure of a number of firms in late 2008 and early 2009, points to the efficacy of the various protections and subsidies it enjoys (falling maize prices helped too), though it says nothing about their efficiency or wisdom. <a href="http://www.economist.com/business-finance/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15773820" rel="nofollow">Ethanol, which is used mainly as an additive to petrol, is not a particularly good fuel</a>: it offers only about two-thirds as much energy as petrol and can corrode pipelines and car engines. By 2014 or earlier, ethanol production is expected to reach 10% of America’s total fuel demand, and thus to hit a “blend wall”, since the EPA does not at present allow blends of more than 10% for mainstream use.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Green.view
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/world/international/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14205727&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maized and confused&lt;/a&gt;
Aug 10th 2009
From The Economist print edition
Does ethanol in Iowa cause deforestation in Brazil? 

HOW green is ethanol? The Renewable Fuels Association (RFA), an American lobby for the stuff, obviously wants voters and politicians to think it is very green indeed. The association’s cool-coloured website plays down claims that ethanol may actually harm the environment. The biggest target of those claims these days is that growing maize to make ethanol causes indirect changes in land use by altering the incentives of other, often foreign, farmers. 
Adding ethanol to the traditional markets for maize (food and fodder) inevitably pushes the price up. That encourages farmers, including those in poor countries, to boost production. If some of those farmers plough up savannah or cut down forest to grow the extra crops, the carbon dioxide released from the plants destroyed and soil ploughed up reduce the benefits of substituting the ethanol produced for petrol. If forests that are still growing are cleared, the environment loses the effect of their future uptake of carbon dioxide, too.

The benchmark paper on this, published in Science in February 2008, argues that, if such changes in land use are taken into account, ethanol is twice as carbon-intensive as petrol in the short run. Making ethanol and burning it in a car (without land changes) emits 20% less carbon dioxide than refining and burning petrol. But planting a hectare of ethanol causes someone to clear land for food crops elsewhere. That ethanol crop must provide that modest 20% reduction for 167 years to achieve a net carbon reduction. By then, of course, it is far too late to mitigate climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green.view<br />
<a href="http://www.economist.com/world/international/displayStory.cfm?story_id=14205727" rel="nofollow">Maized and confused</a><br />
Aug 10th 2009<br />
From The Economist print edition<br />
Does ethanol in Iowa cause deforestation in Brazil? </p>
<p>HOW green is ethanol? The Renewable Fuels Association (RFA), an American lobby for the stuff, obviously wants voters and politicians to think it is very green indeed. The association’s cool-coloured website plays down claims that ethanol may actually harm the environment. The biggest target of those claims these days is that growing maize to make ethanol causes indirect changes in land use by altering the incentives of other, often foreign, farmers.<br />
Adding ethanol to the traditional markets for maize (food and fodder) inevitably pushes the price up. That encourages farmers, including those in poor countries, to boost production. If some of those farmers plough up savannah or cut down forest to grow the extra crops, the carbon dioxide released from the plants destroyed and soil ploughed up reduce the benefits of substituting the ethanol produced for petrol. If forests that are still growing are cleared, the environment loses the effect of their future uptake of carbon dioxide, too.</p>
<p>The benchmark paper on this, published in Science in February 2008, argues that, if such changes in land use are taken into account, ethanol is twice as carbon-intensive as petrol in the short run. Making ethanol and burning it in a car (without land changes) emits 20% less carbon dioxide than refining and burning petrol. But planting a hectare of ethanol causes someone to clear land for food crops elsewhere. That ethanol crop must provide that modest 20% reduction for 167 years to achieve a net carbon reduction. By then, of course, it is far too late to mitigate climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethanol damaging to internal combustion engines?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethanol damaging to internal combustion engines?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 11:05:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] many problems with ethanol as a fuel have been mentioned here before: the climate and energy security benefits are dubious on a life [...]</description>
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		<title>By: .</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 19:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ciw.edu/news/bioelectricity_promises_more_miles_acre_ethanol&quot; title=&quot;Bioelectricity Promises More ‘Miles Per Acre’ Than Ethanol &#124; Carnegie Institution for Science&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bioelectricity Promises More ‘Miles Per Acre’ Than Ethanol&lt;/a&gt;

THURSDAY, MAY 7, 2009 

STANFORD, CA - Biofuels such as ethanol offer an alternative to petroleum for powering our cars, but growing energy crops to produce them can compete with food crops for farmland, and clearing forests to expand farmland will aggravate the climate change problem. How can we maximize our &quot;miles per acre&quot; from biomass? Researchers writing in the online edition of the May 7 Science magazine say the best bet is to convert the biomass to electricity, rather than ethanol. They calculate that, compared to ethanol used for internal combustion engines, bioelectricity used for battery-powered vehicles would deliver an average of 80% more miles of transportation per acre of crops, while also providing double the greenhouse gas offsets to mitigate climate change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ciw.edu/news/bioelectricity_promises_more_miles_acre_ethanol" title="Bioelectricity Promises More ‘Miles Per Acre’ Than Ethanol | Carnegie Institution for Science" rel="nofollow">Bioelectricity Promises More ‘Miles Per Acre’ Than Ethanol</a></p>
<p>THURSDAY, MAY 7, 2009 </p>
<p>STANFORD, CA &#8211; Biofuels such as ethanol offer an alternative to petroleum for powering our cars, but growing energy crops to produce them can compete with food crops for farmland, and clearing forests to expand farmland will aggravate the climate change problem. How can we maximize our &#8220;miles per acre&#8221; from biomass? Researchers writing in the online edition of the May 7 Science magazine say the best bet is to convert the biomass to electricity, rather than ethanol. They calculate that, compared to ethanol used for internal combustion engines, bioelectricity used for battery-powered vehicles would deliver an average of 80% more miles of transportation per acre of crops, while also providing double the greenhouse gas offsets to mitigate climate change.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But ethanol has one particularly compelling argument: &lt;a href=&quot;http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/01/all-btus-are-not-created-equally.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ethanol has a high octane rating (103), which means it does not easily pre-ignite&lt;/a&gt;. This means higher engine efficiencies could be obtained than can be achieved with gasoline.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But ethanol has one particularly compelling argument: <a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2009/01/all-btus-are-not-created-equally.html" rel="nofollow">Ethanol has a high octane rating (103), which means it does not easily pre-ignite</a>. This means higher engine efficiencies could be obtained than can be achieved with gasoline.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 14:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-corn-ethanol-destroys-rain-forests.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;How Corn Ethanol Destroys Rain Forests&lt;/a&gt;

In Brazil, for instance, only a tiny portion of the Amazon is being torn down to grow the sugarcane that fuels most Brazilian cars. More deforestation results from a chain reaction so vast it&#039;s subtle: U.S. farmers are selling one-fifth of their corn to ethanol production, so U.S. soybean farmers are switching to corn, so Brazilian soybean farmers are expanding into cattle pastures, so Brazilian cattlemen are displaced to the Amazon. It&#039;s the remorseless economics of commodities markets.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2008/03/how-corn-ethanol-destroys-rain-forests.html" rel="nofollow">How Corn Ethanol Destroys Rain Forests</a></p>
<p>In Brazil, for instance, only a tiny portion of the Amazon is being torn down to grow the sugarcane that fuels most Brazilian cars. More deforestation results from a chain reaction so vast it&#8217;s subtle: U.S. farmers are selling one-fifth of their corn to ethanol production, so U.S. soybean farmers are switching to corn, so Brazilian soybean farmers are expanding into cattle pastures, so Brazilian cattlemen are displaced to the Amazon. It&#8217;s the remorseless economics of commodities markets.</p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some figures on the economics of corn ethanol</title>
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		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Some figures on the economics of corn ethanol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 06:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] doesn&#8217;t bear upon some other vital questions: Does it actually reduce fossil fuel usage? Does it produce fewer emissions on a lifecycle basis? Does making it raise food prices and starve the [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 15:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2007/03/handy-dandy-khosla-refuter.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Handy-Dandy Khosla Refuter&lt;/a&gt;

Ethanol: A Few Myths Debunked

To be honest, there are so many misconceptions and myths in the article that a better name for it would have been Ethanol: A Few Myths Repeated. I think all of these &quot;myths&quot; have been covered at one time or another in this blog, but he does quote Vinod Khosla at length. So, this might be a good time to re-debunk Khosla, given that he has repeated this claims many times since the first debunking.

So, once again, here are Vinod Khosla&#039;s claims, repeated from the above article, dissected and debunked.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://i-r-squared.blogspot.com/2007/03/handy-dandy-khosla-refuter.html" rel="nofollow">The Handy-Dandy Khosla Refuter</a></p>
<p>Ethanol: A Few Myths Debunked</p>
<p>To be honest, there are so many misconceptions and myths in the article that a better name for it would have been Ethanol: A Few Myths Repeated. I think all of these &#8220;myths&#8221; have been covered at one time or another in this blog, but he does quote Vinod Khosla at length. So, this might be a good time to re-debunk Khosla, given that he has repeated this claims many times since the first debunking.</p>
<p>So, once again, here are Vinod Khosla&#8217;s claims, repeated from the above article, dissected and debunked.</p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Energy security and climate change</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2007/10/30/problems-with-ethanol-as-a-fuel/#comment-31967</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Energy security and climate change</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Jan 2008 18:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] North American dependence on oil imports, but at a very considerable climatic and ecological cost. Corn ethanol is probably an example of the same phenomenon, given all the emissions associated with intensive [...]</description>
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