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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The only question on renewables is when</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-46546</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The only question on renewables is when</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 11:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] capture and storage necessary. Then, there are those who assert that with more efficiency and a better grid, we can move to a renewable-dominated grid within the next few [...]</description>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-44679</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 16:24:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[P]eople do not necessarily live where the wind blows. Indeed, they often avoid living in such places. Solving these problems, though, is a task not for the mechanical engineers who build the turbines but for the electrical engineers who link them to places where power is wanted. That means electricity grids are about to become bigger and smarter.

Bigger means transcontinental, at least for people like Vinod Khosla. His analogy is America’s interstate highway system, built after the second world war. The new grids would use direct, rather than alternating, current. AC was adopted as standard over a century ago, when the electrical world was rather different. But DC is better suited to transporting power over long distances. Less power is lost, even on land. &lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11565667" rel="nofollow"&gt;And DC cables can also be laid on the seabed (the presence of all that water would dissipate an AC current very quickly).&lt;/a&gt; In the right geographical circumstances that eliminates both the difficulty of obtaining wayleaves to cross private land and the not-in-my-backyard objections that power lines are ugly. Indeed, there is already a plan to use underwater cables to ship wind power from Maine to Boston in this way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[P]eople do not necessarily live where the wind blows. Indeed, they often avoid living in such places. Solving these problems, though, is a task not for the mechanical engineers who build the turbines but for the electrical engineers who link them to places where power is wanted. That means electricity grids are about to become bigger and smarter.</p>
<p>Bigger means transcontinental, at least for people like Vinod Khosla. His analogy is America’s interstate highway system, built after the second world war. The new grids would use direct, rather than alternating, current. AC was adopted as standard over a century ago, when the electrical world was rather different. But DC is better suited to transporting power over long distances. Less power is lost, even on land. <a href="http://www.economist.com/specialreports/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11565667" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.economist.com');">And DC cables can also be laid on the seabed (the presence of all that water would dissipate an AC current very quickly).</a> In the right geographical circumstances that eliminates both the difficulty of obtaining wayleaves to cross private land and the not-in-my-backyard objections that power lines are ugly. Indeed, there is already a plan to use underwater cables to ship wind power from Maine to Boston in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tomorrow&#8217;s electrical generation: distributed or concentrated?</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-44469</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Tomorrow&#8217;s electrical generation: distributed or concentrated?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 11:58:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] will be the relative efficiency of differently sized facilities, the rate at which low-loss high voltage direct current (HVDC) transmission emerges, and the rate at which financing options for small facilities [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] will be the relative efficiency of differently sized facilities, the rate at which low-loss high voltage direct current (HVDC) transmission emerges, and the rate at which financing options for small facilities [...]</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-38253</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:46:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Green.view
&lt;a href="http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/greenview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11114962" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mission: Transmission&lt;/a&gt;

Apr 28th 2008
From Economist.com
Harvesting the breeze is trickier than it sounds

Transmission is expensive and often an afterthought, at least for consumers. Even within windy areas the generators are often scattered across wide expanses, which makes gathering it and bringing it to market difficult. Rob Gramlich of the American Wind Energy Association calls transmission the industry’s “biggest long-term barrier”.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Green.view<br />
<a href="http://www.economist.com/daily/columns/greenview/displaystory.cfm?story_id=11114962" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.economist.com');">Mission: Transmission</a></p>
<p>Apr 28th 2008<br />
From Economist.com<br />
Harvesting the breeze is trickier than it sounds</p>
<p>Transmission is expensive and often an afterthought, at least for consumers. Even within windy areas the generators are often scattered across wide expanses, which makes gathering it and bringing it to market difficult. Rob Gramlich of the American Wind Energy Association calls transmission the industry’s “biggest long-term barrier”.</p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Australia&#8217;s geothermal potential</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-33104</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Australia&#8217;s geothermal potential</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jan 2008 12:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] There will be a need for water to use as a heat carrier. Finally, it will be necessary to build transmission capacity to link new facilities with Australian [...]</description>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-31729</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/towards-a-world-wide-web-of-electricity/2008/01/07" rel="nofollow"&gt;Towards a world wide web of electricity&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/01/S2P" rel="nofollow"&gt;Scientists use sunlight to make fuel from CO2&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://mrgreenbiz.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/a-concentrated-power-boost-for-solar-energy/" rel="nofollow"&gt;A concentrated power boost for solar energy&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://earth2tech.com/2008/01/03/solarreserve-salty-solar-thermal/" rel="nofollow"&gt;SolarReserve: salty solar thermal&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href="http://theengineer.co.uk/Articles/303813/Power+across+China.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;Power across China&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://blog.p2pfoundation.net/towards-a-world-wide-web-of-electricity/2008/01/07" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/blog.p2pfoundation.net');">Towards a world wide web of electricity</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2008/01/S2P" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/www.wired.com');">Scientists use sunlight to make fuel from CO2</a></p>
<p><a href="http://mrgreenbiz.wordpress.com/2008/01/03/a-concentrated-power-boost-for-solar-energy/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/mrgreenbiz.wordpress.com');">A concentrated power boost for solar energy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://earth2tech.com/2008/01/03/solarreserve-salty-solar-thermal/" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/earth2tech.com');">SolarReserve: salty solar thermal</a></p>
<p><a href="http://theengineer.co.uk/Articles/303813/Power+across+China.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="javascript:pageTracker._trackPageview ('/outbound/theengineer.co.uk');">Power across China</a></p>
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		<title>By: tris</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-31666</link>
		<dc:creator>tris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 06:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The phenomenon which makes AC transmission inefficient is particularly interesting. I can find wikipedia articles on inductance, and on AC transmission loses, but no proper discussion of how inductance operates in an AC circuit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The phenomenon which makes AC transmission inefficient is particularly interesting. I can find wikipedia articles on inductance, and on AC transmission loses, but no proper discussion of how inductance operates in an AC circuit.</p>
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		<title>By: R.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/01/07/hvdc-transmission-for-renewable-energy/#comment-31641</link>
		<dc:creator>R.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2008 15:45:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At what range does it become more energy efficient to use HVDC?

Also, at what range does it make more sense to use electricity to produce hydrogen and then ship that? Does it make a difference if the energy source is located offshore?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At what range does it become more energy efficient to use HVDC?</p>
<p>Also, at what range does it make more sense to use electricity to produce hydrogen and then ship that? Does it make a difference if the energy source is located offshore?</p>
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