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		<title>By: An introduction to climate science and policy-making</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-83531</link>
		<dc:creator>An introduction to climate science and policy-making</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Romm’s Hell and High Water (focused on the United [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://climateprogress.org/2009/09/23/global-warming-georgia-record-flooding-drought/&quot; title=&quot;Hell and High Water hits Georgia &#171;  Climate Progress&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Hell and High Water hits Georgia&lt;/a&gt;
September 23, 2009

Once-in-a-century drought followed by once-in-a-century flooding — Hell and High Water — that’s something larger and larger swaths of this country will need to get used to, especially if their Congressional reps keep opposing action on climate change.

Douglas county Georgia was “hit by 21 inches of rain in a 24-hour period from Sunday to Monday, knocking out the drinking water supply to most residents, and forcing others to boil their water,” the NYT reports.  “As much as 15 to 20 inches of rain pounded counties around Atlanta for more than 72 hours.”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://climateprogress.org/2009/09/23/global-warming-georgia-record-flooding-drought/" title="Hell and High Water hits Georgia &laquo;  Climate Progress" rel="nofollow">Hell and High Water hits Georgia</a><br />
September 23, 2009</p>
<p>Once-in-a-century drought followed by once-in-a-century flooding — Hell and High Water — that’s something larger and larger swaths of this country will need to get used to, especially if their Congressional reps keep opposing action on climate change.</p>
<p>Douglas county Georgia was “hit by 21 inches of rain in a 24-hour period from Sunday to Monday, knocking out the drinking water supply to most residents, and forcing others to boil their water,” the NYT reports.  “As much as 15 to 20 inches of rain pounded counties around Atlanta for more than 72 hours.”</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-48945</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 15:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/debate/index.cfm?action=article&amp;debate_id=11&amp;story_id=11918864&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;[W]e must deploy staggering amounts of low-carbon energy technology as rapidly as possible&lt;/a&gt;. How much, how fast? As I detailed in a recent online article in Nature4, the “how much?” is illustrated by one possible set of solutions:

* Concentrated solar thermal electric: 1,600 gigawatts peak power
* Nuclear: 700 new gigawatt-sized plants (plus 300 replacement plants)
* Coal: 800 gigawatt-sized plants with all the carbon captured and permanently sequestered
* Solar photovoltaics: 3,000 gigawatts peak power
* Efficient buildings: savings totalling 5 million gigawatt-hours
* Efficient industry: savings totalling 5 million gigawatt-hours, including co-generation and heat recovery
* Wind power: 1 million large wind turbines (2 megawatts peak power)
* Vehicle efficiency: all cars 60 miles per US gallon
* Wind for vehicles: 2,000 gigawatts wind, with most cars plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles or pure electric vehicles
* Cellulosic biofuels: using up to one-sixth of the world’s cropland
* Forestry: end all tropical deforestation

Each of those so-called “stabilisation wedges” requires an astonishing level of effort. For instance, the 800 GW of coal with carbon capture and storage represents a flow of CO2 into the ground equal to the current flow of oil out of the ground. It would require, by itself, re-creating the equivalent of the planet’s entire oil delivery infrastructure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/debate/index.cfm?action=article&amp;debate_id=11&amp;story_id=11918864" rel="nofollow">[W]e must deploy staggering amounts of low-carbon energy technology as rapidly as possible</a>. How much, how fast? As I detailed in a recent online article in Nature4, the “how much?” is illustrated by one possible set of solutions:</p>
<p>* Concentrated solar thermal electric: 1,600 gigawatts peak power<br />
* Nuclear: 700 new gigawatt-sized plants (plus 300 replacement plants)<br />
* Coal: 800 gigawatt-sized plants with all the carbon captured and permanently sequestered<br />
* Solar photovoltaics: 3,000 gigawatts peak power<br />
* Efficient buildings: savings totalling 5 million gigawatt-hours<br />
* Efficient industry: savings totalling 5 million gigawatt-hours, including co-generation and heat recovery<br />
* Wind power: 1 million large wind turbines (2 megawatts peak power)<br />
* Vehicle efficiency: all cars 60 miles per US gallon<br />
* Wind for vehicles: 2,000 gigawatts wind, with most cars plug-in hybrid-electric vehicles or pure electric vehicles<br />
* Cellulosic biofuels: using up to one-sixth of the world’s cropland<br />
* Forestry: end all tropical deforestation</p>
<p>Each of those so-called “stabilisation wedges” requires an astonishing level of effort. For instance, the 800 GW of coal with carbon capture and storage represents a flow of CO2 into the ground equal to the current flow of oil out of the ground. It would require, by itself, re-creating the equivalent of the planet’s entire oil delivery infrastructure.</p>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Debating the future of energy</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-48873</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Debating the future of energy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] should be an interesting one to observe. The opening statements are from Joseph Romm - whose book I discussed earlier - and Peter [...]</description>
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		<title>By: a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Romm&#8217;s fourteen wedges</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-37936</link>
		<dc:creator>a sibilant intake of breath &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Romm&#8217;s fourteen wedges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 11:48:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Romm, whose book I reviewed previously, has a new blog post up outlining what would be necessary to stabilize global concentrations of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-36915</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 03:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This photo has good geometry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This photo has good geometry.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-36912</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 01:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Recommending a good book twice is no fault.

I will have to give it a look. It has been added to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sindark.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reading_lists#Non-fiction_to_buy&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;my non-fiction list&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recommending a good book twice is no fault.</p>
<p>I will have to give it a look. It has been added to <a href="http://www.sindark.com/wiki/index.php?title=Reading_lists#Non-fiction_to_buy" rel="nofollow">my non-fiction list</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Padraic</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-36910</link>
		<dc:creator>Padraic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Apr 2008 00:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ack, sorry, I didn&#039;t realize I was recycling material.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ack, sorry, I didn&#8217;t realize I was recycling material.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-36896</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 20:40:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This post, written by Romm, captures some of his positions concisely:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/4/7/11215/62058&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Welcome NYT readers to the debate of the decade: Technology development vs. deployment&lt;/a&gt;
We&#039;ve run out of time to wait for an unknown techno-fix to save us
Posted by Joseph Romm (Guest Contributor) at 1:37 PM on 08 Apr 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This post, written by Romm, captures some of his positions concisely:</p>
<p><a href="http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/4/7/11215/62058" rel="nofollow">Welcome NYT readers to the debate of the decade: Technology development vs. deployment</a><br />
We&#8217;ve run out of time to wait for an unknown techno-fix to save us<br />
Posted by Joseph Romm (Guest Contributor) at 1:37 PM on 08 Apr 2008</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-36877</link>
		<dc:creator>.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.metafilter.com/70612/Maps-revolutionize-study-of-carbon-dioxide-emissions&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Maps revolutionize study of carbon dioxide emissions&lt;/a&gt;
April 8, 2008 12:03 AM</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.metafilter.com/70612/Maps-revolutionize-study-of-carbon-dioxide-emissions" rel="nofollow">Maps revolutionize study of carbon dioxide emissions</a><br />
April 8, 2008 12:03 AM</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/04/08/hell-and-high-water/#comment-36876</link>
		<dc:creator>.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 16:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.purdue.edu/eas/carbon/vulcan/images/Vulcan.total.grid.cities.legend.2.jpg&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Map of all US emissions&lt;/a&gt;

Measured in millions of tons of carbon per pixel per year.

From &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.purdue.edu/eas/carbon/vulcan/plots.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this site&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.purdue.edu/eas/carbon/vulcan/images/Vulcan.total.grid.cities.legend.2.jpg" rel="nofollow">Map of all US emissions</a></p>
<p>Measured in millions of tons of carbon per pixel per year.</p>
<p>From <a href="http://www.purdue.edu/eas/carbon/vulcan/plots.html" rel="nofollow">this site</a></p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Apr 2008 15:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Padraic,

You mentioned that book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sindark.com/2008/02/09/will-technology-save-us/#comment-33781&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;, but I have not read it yet.

Without a doubt, air travel emissions are a tough nut to crack. Romm may ignore them precisely because he knows that his natural audience will be most hostile to curtailing travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Padraic,</p>
<p>You mentioned that book <a href="http://www.sindark.com/2008/02/09/will-technology-save-us/#comment-33781" rel="nofollow">here</a>, but I have not read it yet.</p>
<p>Without a doubt, air travel emissions are a tough nut to crack. Romm may ignore them precisely because he knows that his natural audience will be most hostile to curtailing travel.</p>
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