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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-97906</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/09/27/2244216/Motorcyclist-Wins-Taping-Case-Against-State-Police&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Motorcyclist Wins Taping Case Against State Police&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Slashdot readers may recall the case of a Maryland motorcyclist (Anthony Graber) arrested and charged with wiretapping violations (a felony) when he recorded his interaction with a Maryland State Trooper. Today, Judge Emory A. Pitt threw out the wiretapping charges against Graber, leaving only his traffic violations to be decided on his October 12 trial date. &#039;The judge ruled that Maryland&#039;s wire tap law allows recording of both voice and sound  in areas where privacy cannot be expected. He ruled that a police officer on a traffic stop has no expectation of privacy.&#039; A happy day for freedom-loving Marylanders and Americans in general.&quot;</description>
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<p>&#8220;Slashdot readers may recall the case of a Maryland motorcyclist (Anthony Graber) arrested and charged with wiretapping violations (a felony) when he recorded his interaction with a Maryland State Trooper. Today, Judge Emory A. Pitt threw out the wiretapping charges against Graber, leaving only his traffic violations to be decided on his October 12 trial date. &#8216;The judge ruled that Maryland&#8217;s wire tap law allows recording of both voice and sound  in areas where privacy cannot be expected. He ruled that a police officer on a traffic stop has no expectation of privacy.&#8217; A happy day for freedom-loving Marylanders and Americans in general.&#8221;</p>
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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-73772</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 20:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.knitnut.net/?p=1537&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Bank Street Bully - final update&lt;/a&gt;
Posted by zoom! on April 5, 2009, at 8:27 pm</description>
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Posted by zoom! on April 5, 2009, at 8:27 pm</p>
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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-68574</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 18:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/03/uk-to-introduce-phot.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;UK to introduce &quot;photograph a cop, 10 years in jail&quot; law&lt;/a&gt;

By Cory Doctorow on Photo

The new set of rules, under section 76 of the 2008 Act and section 58A of the 2000 Act, will target anyone who &#039;elicits or attempts to elicit information about (members of armed forces) ... which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism&#039;.

A person found guilty of this offence could be liable to imprisonment for up to 10 years, and to a fine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/02/03/uk-to-introduce-phot.html" rel="nofollow">UK to introduce &#8220;photograph a cop, 10 years in jail&#8221; law</a></p>
<p>By Cory Doctorow on Photo</p>
<p>The new set of rules, under section 76 of the 2008 Act and section 58A of the 2000 Act, will target anyone who &#8216;elicits or attempts to elicit information about (members of armed forces) &#8230; which is of a kind likely to be useful to a person committing or preparing an act of terrorism&#8217;.</p>
<p>A person found guilty of this offence could be liable to imprisonment for up to 10 years, and to a fine.</p>
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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-65746</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.boingboing.net/2009/01/11/another-london-photo.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Another London photographer arrested for &quot;terrorism&quot; (i.e. &quot;taking a picture of a public building&quot;)&lt;/a&gt;

By Cory Doctorow on Photo

A photographer who spent his whole life photographing and painting around his home neighbourhood of Elephant and Castle in London was arrested under anti-terror laws and jailed, his DNA and fingerprints taken. He was released after five hours, once his Member of Parliament intervened. Under current policies, his DNA will remain on file forever -- though the EU has ordered Britain to cease this practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.boingboing.net/2009/01/11/another-london-photo.html" rel="nofollow">Another London photographer arrested for &#8220;terrorism&#8221; (i.e. &#8220;taking a picture of a public building&#8221;)</a></p>
<p>By Cory Doctorow on Photo</p>
<p>A photographer who spent his whole life photographing and painting around his home neighbourhood of Elephant and Castle in London was arrested under anti-terror laws and jailed, his DNA and fingerprints taken. He was released after five hours, once his Member of Parliament intervened. Under current policies, his DNA will remain on file forever &#8212; though the EU has ordered Britain to cease this practice.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-63313</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jan 2009 00:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Photographer Duane Kerzic was standing on the public platform in New York&#039;s Penn Station, taking pictures of trains in hopes of winning the annual photo contest that Amtrak had been running since 2003. &lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/04/1846229&amp;from=rss&quot; title=&quot;Slashdot &#124; Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested By Amtrak Police&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Amtrak police arrested him for refusing to delete the photos when asked&lt;/a&gt;, though they later charged him with trespassing.

Obviously, there is a lack of communication between Amtrak&#039;s marketing department, which promotes the annual contest, called Picture Our Trains, and its police department, which has a history of harassing photographers for photographing these same trains.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Photographer Duane Kerzic was standing on the public platform in New York&#8217;s Penn Station, taking pictures of trains in hopes of winning the annual photo contest that Amtrak had been running since 2003. <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/04/1846229&amp;from=rss" title="Slashdot | Amtrak Photo Contestant Arrested By Amtrak Police" rel="nofollow">Amtrak police arrested him for refusing to delete the photos when asked</a>, though they later charged him with trespassing.</p>
<p>Obviously, there is a lack of communication between Amtrak&#8217;s marketing department, which promotes the annual contest, called Picture Our Trains, and its police department, which has a history of harassing photographers for photographing these same trains.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-61181</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 01:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a real individual’s life at risk for the sake of emphasis and demonstration, when the point was clearly made in the blog text.&quot;

If the question is whether we can put an individual police officer&#039;s life at risk for the sake of keeping the police the purveyors of justice, then absolutely the answer is yes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a real individual’s life at risk for the sake of emphasis and demonstration, when the point was clearly made in the blog text.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the question is whether we can put an individual police officer&#8217;s life at risk for the sake of keeping the police the purveyors of justice, then absolutely the answer is yes.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-61119</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 21:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Without the photos, the blog text would lack credibility.

Admittedly, the photos could have been conveyed privately to the people now conducting the investigation, but without the discussion created by the public blog posts and photos, there may never have been an investigation to begin with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Without the photos, the blog text would lack credibility.</p>
<p>Admittedly, the photos could have been conveyed privately to the people now conducting the investigation, but without the discussion created by the public blog posts and photos, there may never have been an investigation to begin with.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-61117</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My argument isn&#039;t that we shouldn&#039;t call them on it. I think that Zoom standing up to a violation of her rights is admirable. My question was whether we can justify putting a real individual&#039;s life at risk for the sake of emphasis and demonstration, when the point was clearly made in the blog text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My argument isn&#8217;t that we shouldn&#8217;t call them on it. I think that Zoom standing up to a violation of her rights is admirable. My question was whether we can justify putting a real individual&#8217;s life at risk for the sake of emphasis and demonstration, when the point was clearly made in the blog text.</p>
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		<title>By: Tristan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-61085</link>
		<dc:creator>Tristan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 18:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Is putting someone’s life to risk by circulating images of him/her on the internet worth the gratification of blog-world show and tell? It’s possible that this officer has been in extremely vulnerable circumstances (undercover in a gang, etc.) and this is the sort of thing that could put his life in danger.&quot;

Emily, this is a very serious question, but the answer is totally obvious. The dillema seems to be between the public&#039;s duty to keep the police in line, conflicting with possibly damaging the police&#039;s ability to do its job. But it&#039;s clear which is worse - a slightly less effective in specific circumstances and yet just police force, or one with slightly greater capability and yet corrupt, bullyish, unjust. Which state would you want to live in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Is putting someone’s life to risk by circulating images of him/her on the internet worth the gratification of blog-world show and tell? It’s possible that this officer has been in extremely vulnerable circumstances (undercover in a gang, etc.) and this is the sort of thing that could put his life in danger.&#8221;</p>
<p>Emily, this is a very serious question, but the answer is totally obvious. The dillema seems to be between the public&#8217;s duty to keep the police in line, conflicting with possibly damaging the police&#8217;s ability to do its job. But it&#8217;s clear which is worse &#8211; a slightly less effective in specific circumstances and yet just police force, or one with slightly greater capability and yet corrupt, bullyish, unjust. Which state would you want to live in?</p>
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		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-61068</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Chief White said he had no problems with photographs he saw posted, which include a male officer kneeling beside the woman, who is lying on the ground while three or four other officers look on, and a paramedic and police officer tending to the woman while a pair of male officers look toward the camera.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Chief White said he had no problems with photographs he saw posted, which include a male officer kneeling beside the woman, who is lying on the ground while three or four other officers look on, and a paramedic and police officer tending to the woman while a pair of male officers look toward the camera.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Police+wanted+photos+erased+blogger+claims/1088198/story.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Police wanted photos erased, blogger claims&lt;/a&gt;
By Neco CockburnDecember 17, 2008

&quot;Ottawa police Chief Vern White has ordered a review after a blogger alleged being ordered by an officer to stop taking photographs of an arrest in Centretown.

The blogger, who goes by the pseudonym Zoom, claims to have come across three officers arresting a woman near Hartman’s grocery store, on Bank Street near Somerset Street, on Monday afternoon.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ottawacitizen.com/Police+wanted+photos+erased+blogger+claims/1088198/story.html" rel="nofollow">Police wanted photos erased, blogger claims</a><br />
By Neco CockburnDecember 17, 2008</p>
<p>&#8220;Ottawa police Chief Vern White has ordered a review after a blogger alleged being ordered by an officer to stop taking photographs of an arrest in Centretown.</p>
<p>The blogger, who goes by the pseudonym Zoom, claims to have come across three officers arresting a woman near Hartman’s grocery store, on Bank Street near Somerset Street, on Monday afternoon.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/16/power-oversight-and-photography/#comment-61063</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 17:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I applaud Zoom&#039;s actions regarding the bully police officer. However, I do think that the blog description is more than enough to get the idea about what occurred.

Is putting someone&#039;s life to risk by circulating images of him/her on the internet worth the gratification of blog-world show and tell? It&#039;s possible that this officer has been in extremely vulnerable circumstances (undercover in a gang, etc.) and this is the sort of thing that could put his life in danger.

I suppose the question is whether it&#039;s worth putting a police officer&#039;s (or anyone&#039;s) life to risk to emphasize a point already made in the text of a blog post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud Zoom&#8217;s actions regarding the bully police officer. However, I do think that the blog description is more than enough to get the idea about what occurred.</p>
<p>Is putting someone&#8217;s life to risk by circulating images of him/her on the internet worth the gratification of blog-world show and tell? It&#8217;s possible that this officer has been in extremely vulnerable circumstances (undercover in a gang, etc.) and this is the sort of thing that could put his life in danger.</p>
<p>I suppose the question is whether it&#8217;s worth putting a police officer&#8217;s (or anyone&#8217;s) life to risk to emphasize a point already made in the text of a blog post.</p>
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