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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-91847</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:48:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://khanexercises.appspot.com/video?v=M_5KYncYNyc&quot; title=&quot;Khan Academy: Efficiency of a Carnot Engine&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Efficiency of a Carnot Engine&lt;/a&gt;
Definition of efficiency for a heat engine. Efficiency of a Carnot Engine.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://khanexercises.appspot.com/video?v=pQWwP7YYH6o&quot; title=&quot;Khan Academy: Carnot Efficiency 2:  Reversing the Cycle&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carnot Efficiency 2: Reversing the Cycle&lt;/a&gt;
Seeing how we can scale and or reverse a Carnot Engine (to make a refrigerator)

&lt;a href=&quot;http://khanexercises.appspot.com/video?v=LUoUb4hGMH8&quot; title=&quot;Khan Academy: Carnot Efficiency 3:  Proving that it is the most efficient&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carnot Efficiency 3: Proving that it is the most efficient&lt;/a&gt;
Proving that a Carnot Engine is the most efficient engine</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://khanexercises.appspot.com/video?v=M_5KYncYNyc" title="Khan Academy: Efficiency of a Carnot Engine" rel="nofollow">Efficiency of a Carnot Engine</a><br />
Definition of efficiency for a heat engine. Efficiency of a Carnot Engine.</p>
<p><a href="http://khanexercises.appspot.com/video?v=pQWwP7YYH6o" title="Khan Academy: Carnot Efficiency 2:  Reversing the Cycle" rel="nofollow">Carnot Efficiency 2: Reversing the Cycle</a><br />
Seeing how we can scale and or reverse a Carnot Engine (to make a refrigerator)</p>
<p><a href="http://khanexercises.appspot.com/video?v=LUoUb4hGMH8" title="Khan Academy: Carnot Efficiency 3:  Proving that it is the most efficient" rel="nofollow">Carnot Efficiency 3: Proving that it is the most efficient</a><br />
Proving that a Carnot Engine is the most efficient engine</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-89787</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 21:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;&lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_L%C3%A9onard_Sadi_Carnot&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;He&lt;/a&gt; saw very clearly, intuitively, that he could give very definite answers to the two questions set before the reader. The Carnot cycle is the most efficient possible engine, not only because of the (trivial) absence of friction and other incidental wasteful processes; the main reason is that it assumes no conduction of heat between parts of the engine at different temperatures. He knew that conduction of heat between bodies at different temperatures is a wasteful, irreversible process and must be eliminated if the heat engine is to have the maximum efficiency.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_L%C3%A9onard_Sadi_Carnot" rel="nofollow">He</a> saw very clearly, intuitively, that he could give very definite answers to the two questions set before the reader. The Carnot cycle is the most efficient possible engine, not only because of the (trivial) absence of friction and other incidental wasteful processes; the main reason is that it assumes no conduction of heat between parts of the engine at different temperatures. He knew that conduction of heat between bodies at different temperatures is a wasteful, irreversible process and must be eliminated if the heat engine is to have the maximum efficiency.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-87575</link>
		<dc:creator>.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technology Quarterly

Heat scavenging
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/printedition/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15582193&quot; title=&quot;Heat scavenging: Stealing the heat &#124; The Economist&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Stealing the heat&lt;/a&gt;
Energy: The idea of recycling paper, glass, metal and plastics has become commonplace. New technologies allow heat to be recycled, too

Mar 4th 2010 &#124; From The Economist print edition

&quot;By constructing a computer rack similar to that used in the office test, the researchers were able to provide the greenhouse with badly needed heat. A short while later, the rack was joined by three more racks that today provide the greenhouse with enough heat to cut its gas bills by $15,600 a year—while simultaneously saving Notre Dame $38,000 in cooling costs.

...

Another way to recycle heat that is being explored is to capture infrared with photovoltaic cells similar to those used in solar panels. Photovoltaic cells depend on packets of light (photons) knocking electrons free from atoms. They then employ the electrons so liberated to create a current. Photovoltaic cells are usually most responsive to photons in the visible and ultraviolet parts of the spectrum, but they can also respond to high-frequency infrared photons. Objects at a temperature of 1,000-1,500ºC produce plenty of such photons.

But only those that are travelling at a near-perfect right-angle to the surface of the hot material can escape and travel outwards. Photons travelling at any other angle within the material are reflected back inside when they reach the surface. As a result, photovoltaic cells placed near hot objects have only been able to generate around 0.02 watts per square centimetre. By contrast, photovoltaic cells absorbing sunlight can produce about 20 watts per square centimetre, provided the light is carefully concentrated using mirrors.

...

So Dr Hagelstein and his colleagues changed the design of the cell, adding tiny metal wires to the usual sandwich of semiconductor materials in order to pick up the liberated electrons and allow them to be carried off to create an electric current. Although the new device is still at an experimental stage, the team’s calculations, published in a paper in the Journal of Applied Physics in November, suggest that it could convert heat to electricity at a rate of 100 watts per square centimetre. Installed on a laptop, it could recycle heat from the microprocessor and extend running time by around 20%. One way or another, it seems likely that the abundant reservoirs of waste heat are about to be tapped.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technology Quarterly</p>
<p>Heat scavenging<br />
<a href="http://www.economist.com/printedition/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15582193" title="Heat scavenging: Stealing the heat | The Economist" rel="nofollow">Stealing the heat</a><br />
Energy: The idea of recycling paper, glass, metal and plastics has become commonplace. New technologies allow heat to be recycled, too</p>
<p>Mar 4th 2010 | From The Economist print edition</p>
<p>&#8220;By constructing a computer rack similar to that used in the office test, the researchers were able to provide the greenhouse with badly needed heat. A short while later, the rack was joined by three more racks that today provide the greenhouse with enough heat to cut its gas bills by $15,600 a year—while simultaneously saving Notre Dame $38,000 in cooling costs.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>Another way to recycle heat that is being explored is to capture infrared with photovoltaic cells similar to those used in solar panels. Photovoltaic cells depend on packets of light (photons) knocking electrons free from atoms. They then employ the electrons so liberated to create a current. Photovoltaic cells are usually most responsive to photons in the visible and ultraviolet parts of the spectrum, but they can also respond to high-frequency infrared photons. Objects at a temperature of 1,000-1,500ºC produce plenty of such photons.</p>
<p>But only those that are travelling at a near-perfect right-angle to the surface of the hot material can escape and travel outwards. Photons travelling at any other angle within the material are reflected back inside when they reach the surface. As a result, photovoltaic cells placed near hot objects have only been able to generate around 0.02 watts per square centimetre. By contrast, photovoltaic cells absorbing sunlight can produce about 20 watts per square centimetre, provided the light is carefully concentrated using mirrors.</p>
<p>&#8230;</p>
<p>So Dr Hagelstein and his colleagues changed the design of the cell, adding tiny metal wires to the usual sandwich of semiconductor materials in order to pick up the liberated electrons and allow them to be carried off to create an electric current. Although the new device is still at an experimental stage, the team’s calculations, published in a paper in the Journal of Applied Physics in November, suggest that it could convert heat to electricity at a rate of 100 watts per square centimetre. Installed on a laptop, it could recycle heat from the microprocessor and extend running time by around 20%. One way or another, it seems likely that the abundant reservoirs of waste heat are about to be tapped.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Those much-hyped &#8216;Bloom Boxes&#8217;</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-87064</link>
		<dc:creator>Those much-hyped &#8216;Bloom Boxes&#8217;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 21:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Many environmentalists assume that distributed power is the future, but there are definitely advantages to large centralized facilities. They can take advantage of economies of scale and concentrated expertise. They may also find it easier to maintain the temperature differential that establishes carnot efficiency. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Many environmentalists assume that distributed power is the future, but there are definitely advantages to large centralized facilities. They can take advantage of economies of scale and concentrated expertise. They may also find it easier to maintain the temperature differential that establishes carnot efficiency. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Degrees of frost</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-86787</link>
		<dc:creator>Degrees of frost</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 12:40:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and an armpit) would be long-gone. For scientists, the Kelvin scale lets you represent temperature appropriately for thermodynamic calculations, and helpfully retains the same unit size as [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and an armpit) would be long-gone. For scientists, the Kelvin scale lets you represent temperature appropriately for thermodynamic calculations, and helpfully retains the same unit size as [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-86014</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:26:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 12:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surface of the sun (photosphere) is fairly cool at about 6,000 Kelvin. The corona,. on the other hand, which might also be considered as the outer layer of the sun, is anywhere from 1 million to 10 million Kelvin.
So your other Facebook guessers are not necessarily as far off as they might seem!

Why the corona is so much hotter is still not precisely known:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona#Coronal_heating_problem</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surface of the sun (photosphere) is fairly cool at about 6,000 Kelvin. The corona,. on the other hand, which might also be considered as the outer layer of the sun, is anywhere from 1 million to 10 million Kelvin.<br />
So your other Facebook guessers are not necessarily as far off as they might seem!</p>
<p>Why the corona is so much hotter is still not precisely known:<br />
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona#Coronal_heating_problem" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corona#Coronal_heating_pro blem</a></p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-85975</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 02:17:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your figures were remarkably good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your figures were remarkably good.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Horn</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-85974</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Horn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 01:39:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aha!  I converted the figures I posted on facebook to Kelvin, but I was certain my result of the sun only being 22 times hotter had to have been wrong. I thought I had missed some unit conversion along the way and had to rethink my whole answer. This makes sense though, because something at 288K actually has a significant amount of kinetic energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aha!  I converted the figures I posted on facebook to Kelvin, but I was certain my result of the sun only being 22 times hotter had to have been wrong. I thought I had missed some unit conversion along the way and had to rethink my whole answer. This makes sense though, because something at 288K actually has a significant amount of kinetic energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-85969</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:29:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;“Don’t hesitate, Kelvinate!”&lt;/em&gt;

The surface of the sun is only about twenty times hotter than the
average surface temperature of the Earth: about 6,000°K compared with
about 288°K.

People thinking in Celsius would likely get the ratio wildly wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>“Don’t hesitate, Kelvinate!”</em></p>
<p>The surface of the sun is only about twenty times hotter than the<br />
average surface temperature of the Earth: about 6,000°K compared with<br />
about 288°K.</p>
<p>People thinking in Celsius would likely get the ratio wildly wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-81406</link>
		<dc:creator>.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Sep 2009 04:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As more and more renewable energy enters the grid, it gets increasingly difficult to match supply and demand 24/7. The answer of German power company Lichtblick and Volkswagen is a swarm of 100,000 flexible base-load generators. &lt;a href=&quot;http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/10/0246238/Lichtblick-and-Volkswagen-To-Build-Swarm-Power-Plants?from=rss&quot; title=&quot;Slashdot Technology Story &#124; Lichtblick and Volkswagen To Build &#039;Swarm&#039; Power Plants&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;These fridge-sized CHP (Combined Heat and Power) generators that will be installed in people&#039;s basements in Hamburg starting early next year will feed electricity into the grid and the waste heat into their home&#039;s water/heating&lt;/a&gt;. The &quot;ZuhauseKraftwerk&quot; (HomePowerPlant) features a vanilla VW Golf natural-gas engine that generates 20kW electrical and 34 kW heat with an efficiency of 92%. The units are remotely controlled via a mobile network or DSL; they can ramp up in a minute if needed. A water tank ensures that heat is continuously available, while electricity is produced on demand. The swarm will replace two nuclear plants, they say. And your old oil heating needed replacement anyway.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As more and more renewable energy enters the grid, it gets increasingly difficult to match supply and demand 24/7. The answer of German power company Lichtblick and Volkswagen is a swarm of 100,000 flexible base-load generators. <a href="http://tech.slashdot.org/story/09/09/10/0246238/Lichtblick-and-Volkswagen-To-Build-Swarm-Power-Plants?from=rss" title="Slashdot Technology Story | Lichtblick and Volkswagen To Build 'Swarm' Power Plants" rel="nofollow">These fridge-sized CHP (Combined Heat and Power) generators that will be installed in people&#8217;s basements in Hamburg starting early next year will feed electricity into the grid and the waste heat into their home&#8217;s water/heating</a>. The &#8220;ZuhauseKraftwerk&#8221; (HomePowerPlant) features a vanilla VW Golf natural-gas engine that generates 20kW electrical and 34 kW heat with an efficiency of 92%. The units are remotely controlled via a mobile network or DSL; they can ramp up in a minute if needed. A water tank ensures that heat is continuously available, while electricity is produced on demand. The swarm will replace two nuclear plants, they say. And your old oil heating needed replacement anyway.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/02/carnot-efficiency/#comment-79785</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 01:36:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is logical.

A heat engine makes a hot place and a cold place more similar, and makes energy.

A heat pump makes a hot place and a cold place more different, and requires energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is logical.</p>
<p>A heat engine makes a hot place and a cold place more similar, and makes energy.</p>
<p>A heat pump makes a hot place and a cold place more different, and requires energy.</p>
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