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	<title>Comments on: Steven Chu on the oil sands</title>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/03/steven-chu-on-the-oil-sands/#comment-139782</link>
		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2011 00:05:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there is a lot of reason to be skeptical about the viability of CCS.

It&#039;s not clear that CO2 can be stored safely and indefinitely underground. It&#039;s not clear the technology can be deployed at a large enough scale to have an impact on global CO2 emissions. Finally, it&#039;s not clear whether burning fossil fuels and sequestering the greenhouse gas pollution will actually be cheaper than using alternatives like renewables.

If renewables are cheaper and safer, they seem far preferable to CCS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there is a lot of reason to be skeptical about the viability of CCS.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not clear that CO2 can be stored safely and indefinitely underground. It&#8217;s not clear the technology can be deployed at a large enough scale to have an impact on global CO2 emissions. Finally, it&#8217;s not clear whether burning fossil fuels and sequestering the greenhouse gas pollution will actually be cheaper than using alternatives like renewables.</p>
<p>If renewables are cheaper and safer, they seem far preferable to CCS.</p>
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		<title>By: David Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/03/steven-chu-on-the-oil-sands/#comment-139664</link>
		<dc:creator>David Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Sep 2011 17:05:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As Chu says, he is a &quot;big believer in technology&quot;.  Regarding carbon capture and storage technology, he said this in the runup to the Copenhagen negotiations:  &lt;b&gt;“Energy efficiency is the lowest cost solution, but CCS is not far behind”&lt;/b&gt;.  

An example of what he&#039;s talking about is the CCS process American Electric Power developed for its Mountaineer plant in Virginia with help from Chu&#039;s DOE:  CEO Mike Morris was all ready to build at scale a coal plant that would capture 90% of its CO2 until he realized Congress was not going to put a price on CO2 emissions and his regulator would not allow him to pass on the 2 cent per kWhr extra cost CCS would add to the cost of electricity to his customers, so he cancelled.  See:  http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=11-P13-00029&amp;segmentID=1

The best book on carbon capture and storage I&#039;ve seen is &lt;i&gt;Capturing Carbon&lt;/i&gt;, by Robin Mills.  People with opinions about the possibilities of this technology would do well to read it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Chu says, he is a &#8220;big believer in technology&#8221;.  Regarding carbon capture and storage technology, he said this in the runup to the Copenhagen negotiations:  <b>“Energy efficiency is the lowest cost solution, but CCS is not far behind”</b>.  </p>
<p>An example of what he&#8217;s talking about is the CCS process American Electric Power developed for its Mountaineer plant in Virginia with help from Chu&#8217;s DOE:  CEO Mike Morris was all ready to build at scale a coal plant that would capture 90% of its CO2 until he realized Congress was not going to put a price on CO2 emissions and his regulator would not allow him to pass on the 2 cent per kWhr extra cost CCS would add to the cost of electricity to his customers, so he cancelled.  See:  <a href="http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=11-P13-00029&#038;segmentID=1" rel="nofollow">http://www.loe.org/shows/segments.html?programID=11-P13 -00029&#038;segmentID=1</a></p>
<p>The best book on carbon capture and storage I&#8217;ve seen is <i>Capturing Carbon</i>, by Robin Mills.  People with opinions about the possibilities of this technology would do well to read it.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/03/steven-chu-on-the-oil-sands/#comment-84297</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:04:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091125/gore_AM_091125/20091125?hub=SciTech&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gas from tarsands &#039;dirtiest&#039; alternative, Gore says&lt;/a&gt;

&quot;Gasoline made from the tarsands would give a Toyota Prius the carbon footprint of a General Motors Hummer. And to go for the dirtiest possible alternative, that vastly increases the amount of global warming pollution at a time when the world is desperately trying to reach an agreement to reduce that pollution, is obviously not the right way to go,&quot; Gore told CTV&#039;s Canada AM.

&quot;I understand that a lot of money is at stake, but often the choice we have to make comes down to whether we&#039;re focused only on short-term profits at the expense of the health of the planet and the security for our children, (and) at the end of the day that&#039;s not really a difficult choice.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20091125/gore_AM_091125/20091125?hub=SciTech" rel="nofollow">Gas from tarsands &#8216;dirtiest&#8217; alternative, Gore says</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Gasoline made from the tarsands would give a Toyota Prius the carbon footprint of a General Motors Hummer. And to go for the dirtiest possible alternative, that vastly increases the amount of global warming pollution at a time when the world is desperately trying to reach an agreement to reduce that pollution, is obviously not the right way to go,&#8221; Gore told CTV&#8217;s Canada AM.</p>
<p>&#8220;I understand that a lot of money is at stake, but often the choice we have to make comes down to whether we&#8217;re focused only on short-term profits at the expense of the health of the planet and the security for our children, (and) at the end of the day that&#8217;s not really a difficult choice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: R.K.</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/06/03/steven-chu-on-the-oil-sands/#comment-77305</link>
		<dc:creator>R.K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 18:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can only hope that people like Chu are being more helpful behind the scenes than in their public pronouncements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can only hope that people like Chu are being more helpful behind the scenes than in their public pronouncements.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Related posts:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/11/obamas-energy-secretary/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama’s energy secretary&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sindark.com/2009/02/07/carbon-capture-cannot-redeem-the-oil-sands/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Carbon capture cannot redeem the oil sands&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Related posts:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sindark.com/2008/12/11/obamas-energy-secretary/" rel="nofollow">Obama’s energy secretary</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.sindark.com/2009/02/07/carbon-capture-cannot-redeem-the-oil-sands/" rel="nofollow">Carbon capture cannot redeem the oil sands</a></p>
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