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		<title>By: Monbiot on libertarianism and ecology</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-166623</link>
		<dc:creator>Monbiot on libertarianism and ecology</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] See also: Why conservatives should love carbon taxes [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The IEA endorses carbon pricing</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-154235</link>
		<dc:creator>The IEA endorses carbon pricing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Nov 2011 01:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The International Energy Association is now saying what many environmental economists have been saying for years: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-138463</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Sep 2011 21:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/when-it-comes-to-emissions-we-have-bureaucracy-run-wild/article2152317/?service=mobile&quot; title=&quot;Opinion - The Globe and Mail&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;When it comes to emissions, we have bureaucracy run wild&lt;/a&gt;

Since their first day in office, the Harper Conservatives have been both big spenders and users of the tax system to achieve social (and political) objectives. What they haven’t done is deploy regulations to achieve their objectives.

Instead, they’ve railed against excessive regulations. They even established a Red Tape Commission to reduce regulations that got in the way of doing business.

They’ve been quite clear: Spend and tax to achieve objectives, but don’t regulate. Except, it seems, in one huge area – greenhouse-gas emissions. In this case, the Harper Conservatives have jettisoned their usual approaches and opted for the least economically efficient methods imaginable: regulations and subsidies. Predictably, the government is failing to meet its own targets.

It has recently been announcing regulations for new coal- and natural gas-fired plants. Later regulations will arrive for existing coal-fired plants. Still later, perhaps at the end of 2012, will come regulations for oil operations. These will be so detailed as to be specific to each plant across the country, a task of mind-boggling complexity designed by civil servants.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://m.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/opinion/when-it-comes-to-emissions-we-have-bureaucracy-run-wild/article2152317/?service=mobile" title="Opinion - The Globe and Mail" rel="nofollow">When it comes to emissions, we have bureaucracy run wild</a></p>
<p>Since their first day in office, the Harper Conservatives have been both big spenders and users of the tax system to achieve social (and political) objectives. What they haven’t done is deploy regulations to achieve their objectives.</p>
<p>Instead, they’ve railed against excessive regulations. They even established a Red Tape Commission to reduce regulations that got in the way of doing business.</p>
<p>They’ve been quite clear: Spend and tax to achieve objectives, but don’t regulate. Except, it seems, in one huge area – greenhouse-gas emissions. In this case, the Harper Conservatives have jettisoned their usual approaches and opted for the least economically efficient methods imaginable: regulations and subsidies. Predictably, the government is failing to meet its own targets.</p>
<p>It has recently been announcing regulations for new coal- and natural gas-fired plants. Later regulations will arrive for existing coal-fired plants. Still later, perhaps at the end of 2012, will come regulations for oil operations. These will be so detailed as to be specific to each plant across the country, a task of mind-boggling complexity designed by civil servants.</p>
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		<title>By: .</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-129256</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 23:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is encouraging that the Council of Chief Executives is reiterating its support for putting a price on carbon at the national level (National Energy Strategy Gains Clout – Report on Business, July 11). A particularly simple and transparent way to do this is a carbon fee and dividend: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/july-12-letters-to-the-editor/article2093954/page2/&quot; title=&quot;July 12: Letters to the editor - The Globe and Mail&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Charge a fee on fossil fuels at their source of production that reflects their carbon content, then distribute the revenue raised directly back to Canadians, e.g. as dividend cheques.&lt;/a&gt; People get both more money in their pockets and an incentive to spend it on less-carbon-intensive products and services as the cost of carbon propagates in an efficient manner throughout the economy. Only when fossil fuels’ real cost to our planet is reflected in what we pay will we be able to move toward the low-carbon future necessary to avoid catastrophic climate change.

James Booth, Toronto</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is encouraging that the Council of Chief Executives is reiterating its support for putting a price on carbon at the national level (National Energy Strategy Gains Clout – Report on Business, July 11). A particularly simple and transparent way to do this is a carbon fee and dividend: <a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/opinions/letters-to-the-editor/july-12-letters-to-the-editor/article2093954/page2/" title="July 12: Letters to the editor - The Globe and Mail" rel="nofollow">Charge a fee on fossil fuels at their source of production that reflects their carbon content, then distribute the revenue raised directly back to Canadians, e.g. as dividend cheques.</a> People get both more money in their pockets and an incentive to spend it on less-carbon-intensive products and services as the cost of carbon propagates in an efficient manner throughout the economy. Only when fossil fuels’ real cost to our planet is reflected in what we pay will we be able to move toward the low-carbon future necessary to avoid catastrophic climate change.</p>
<p>James Booth, Toronto</p>
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		<title>By: Another Canadian climate plan abandoned</title>
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		<dc:creator>Another Canadian climate plan abandoned</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 May 2011 03:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Conservatives should love carbon pricing, and yet: Tories take cap-and-trade system off the table’: Kent. [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:12:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It has always been funny, in a gallows humor sort of way, to watch &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/opinion/26krugman.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;conservatives who laud the limitless power and flexibility of markets turn around and insist that the economy would collapse if we were to put a price on carbon&lt;/a&gt;. All serious estimates suggest that we could phase in limits on greenhouse gas emissions with at most a small impact on the economy’s growth rate.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It has always been funny, in a gallows humor sort of way, to watch <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/26/opinion/26krugman.html" rel="nofollow">conservatives who laud the limitless power and flexibility of markets turn around and insist that the economy would collapse if we were to put a price on carbon</a>. All serious estimates suggest that we could phase in limits on greenhouse gas emissions with at most a small impact on the economy’s growth rate.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Milan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Milan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of populism:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ontario-shelves-eco-fees-after-fierce-backlash/article1645400/&quot; title=&quot;Ontario shelves eco fees after fierce backlash - The Globe and Mail&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Ontario shelves eco fees after fierce backlash&lt;/a&gt;

Karen Howlett

Toronto — From Tuesday&#039;s Globe and Mail Published on Monday, Jul. 19, 2010 8:54PM EDT Last updated on Tuesday, Jul. 20, 2010 3:22AM EDT

The Ontario government is pulling the plug on its controversial program that slaps eco fees on thousands of household products, after a growing backlash from retailers and consumer groups.

Environment Minister John Gerretsen will announce on Tuesday that the government plans to eliminate the new fees charged on aerosols, cleaning products and thousands of other potentially toxic items, according to government sources.

The cancellation comes less than three weeks after the fees were introduced, marking another hasty policy retreat for the McGuinty government. Premier Dalton McGuinty shelved a new sex-education curriculum last April amid complaints from parents and religious groups</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of populism:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ontario-shelves-eco-fees-after-fierce-backlash/article1645400/" title="Ontario shelves eco fees after fierce backlash - The Globe and Mail" rel="nofollow">Ontario shelves eco fees after fierce backlash</a></p>
<p>Karen Howlett</p>
<p>Toronto — From Tuesday&#8217;s Globe and Mail Published on Monday, Jul. 19, 2010 8:54PM EDT Last updated on Tuesday, Jul. 20, 2010 3:22AM EDT</p>
<p>The Ontario government is pulling the plug on its controversial program that slaps eco fees on thousands of household products, after a growing backlash from retailers and consumer groups.</p>
<p>Environment Minister John Gerretsen will announce on Tuesday that the government plans to eliminate the new fees charged on aerosols, cleaning products and thousands of other potentially toxic items, according to government sources.</p>
<p>The cancellation comes less than three weeks after the fees were introduced, marking another hasty policy retreat for the McGuinty government. Premier Dalton McGuinty shelved a new sex-education curriculum last April amid complaints from parents and religious groups</p>
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		<title>By: Boy, Oh BOLO! &#171; Adorkable Thespian</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-92232</link>
		<dc:creator>Boy, Oh BOLO! &#171; Adorkable Thespian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 17:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] presented an argument in favour of carbon taxes using conservative, economic theory. In YOUR face, Stephen Harper!He was kind [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Blog Out Loud Ottawa 2010</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-92213</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog Out Loud Ottawa 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 13:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] was the only one who presented a political post written in an editorial style &#8211; Why Conservatives Should Love Carbon Taxes. Perhaps next year I will have some company. After all, blogs can be turned to serve many purposes, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] was the only one who presented a political post written in an editorial style &#8211; Why Conservatives Should Love Carbon Taxes. Perhaps next year I will have some company. After all, blogs can be turned to serve many purposes, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tell It To Me One More Time &#171; Blog Out Loud</title>
		<link>http://www.sindark.com/2009/11/10/why-conservatives-should-love-carbon-taxes/#comment-92179</link>
		<dc:creator>Tell It To Me One More Time &#171; Blog Out Loud</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 03:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of a sibilant intake of breath Why Conservatives Should Love Carbon Taxes Woodsy of Coloured Marbles Between The Lines and I Have Been&#8230; and Des Clips XUP of XUP [...]</description>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 19:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/06/taxing_carbon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Some more thoughts on a carbon tax&lt;/a&gt;

Jun 18th 2010, 5:57 by T.C. &#124; LONDON

THIS week, in advance of its &quot;emergency budget&quot; on June 22nd, we wrote about how Britain might close its deficit, which currently stands at 11.1% of GDP. One idea we advocated was a carbon tax. We commissioned some modeling on the subject from Cambridge Econometrics (who have a model specifically designed for this sort of thing). I wrote up the headline results in a small piece to accompany the main article, but space constraints prevented me going into too much detail. Happily, space constraints don&#039;t apply on the web.

The Economist has long advocated a carbon tax as the best way to deal with climate change. Carbon taxes are a subspecies of Pigovian tax; taxes that are designed primarily to change behaviour rather than to raise revenue. The idea is to try to manipulate the price of a good or a service in order to capture all the negative externalities it imposes. Pollution is the standard example: neither the owner of a factory nor the buyer of its goods, for example, care very much that the local river is being filled with nasty chemicals as a byproduct of the factory&#039;s work. Those who live by the river do care, but, not being party to the transaction, there isn&#039;t much they can do about it. The uncompensated costs imposed on locals by the factory-owner&#039;s activities represent a market failure. In theory the government would step in and impose a tax on the factory owner designed to compensate the locals for the damage caused by his actions (in the jargon, the government would make sure the private cost of producing the goods was equal to the social cost).

It&#039;s the sort of dry, neat idea that appeals to professional economists, but there are reasons for advocating carbon taxes in the real world, too. Having one, unchanging price for carbon offers certainty to businesses and the public (unlike cap-and-trade schemes such as the EUETS, which has seen big price fluctuations), an important benefit to industries like power generation, which produces a lot of greenhouse gases and which must be confident that an expensive new power station will stay profitable for several years. And yes, before you rush to the comment button, there are important downsides, too. I&#039;ll explore some of those below.

With all that in mind, we investigated two different basic scenarios. One applied an economy-wide carbon tax that aimed to raise 1% of GDP in revenue by 2020; the other applied a tax set at a level designed to ensure that Britain meets its commitment to cut emissions by 34%, relative to their 1990 levels, by 2020. In both cases, to keep things simple, we scrapped all the other policies that aim at the same outcome, such as Britain&#039;s membership of Europe&#039;s emissions-trading scheme, subsidies for renewable energy and so on. The results of the first scenario are set out in the print piece, but briefly, electricity prices fall as expensive subsidies for renewable energy are replaced by the carbon tax. That provides an economic boost, the government gets an extra revenue stream, and output is 2.5% higher come 2020 than in the baseline scenario. Somewhat embarassingly, emissions of carbon are slightly higher than in the baseline scenario. But we chose 1% of GDP as our target figure for convenience more than anything else. There&#039;s no reason the tax couldn&#039;t be tweaked a little to reduce emissions, although a high enough tax would presumably start to drag GDP back down again. At any rate, the modeling strongly suggests that a tax would be much more efficient than the present arrangements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.economist.com/blogs/freeexchange/2010/06/taxing_carbon" rel="nofollow">Some more thoughts on a carbon tax</a></p>
<p>Jun 18th 2010, 5:57 by T.C. | LONDON</p>
<p>THIS week, in advance of its &#8220;emergency budget&#8221; on June 22nd, we wrote about how Britain might close its deficit, which currently stands at 11.1% of GDP. One idea we advocated was a carbon tax. We commissioned some modeling on the subject from Cambridge Econometrics (who have a model specifically designed for this sort of thing). I wrote up the headline results in a small piece to accompany the main article, but space constraints prevented me going into too much detail. Happily, space constraints don&#8217;t apply on the web.</p>
<p>The Economist has long advocated a carbon tax as the best way to deal with climate change. Carbon taxes are a subspecies of Pigovian tax; taxes that are designed primarily to change behaviour rather than to raise revenue. The idea is to try to manipulate the price of a good or a service in order to capture all the negative externalities it imposes. Pollution is the standard example: neither the owner of a factory nor the buyer of its goods, for example, care very much that the local river is being filled with nasty chemicals as a byproduct of the factory&#8217;s work. Those who live by the river do care, but, not being party to the transaction, there isn&#8217;t much they can do about it. The uncompensated costs imposed on locals by the factory-owner&#8217;s activities represent a market failure. In theory the government would step in and impose a tax on the factory owner designed to compensate the locals for the damage caused by his actions (in the jargon, the government would make sure the private cost of producing the goods was equal to the social cost).</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the sort of dry, neat idea that appeals to professional economists, but there are reasons for advocating carbon taxes in the real world, too. Having one, unchanging price for carbon offers certainty to businesses and the public (unlike cap-and-trade schemes such as the EUETS, which has seen big price fluctuations), an important benefit to industries like power generation, which produces a lot of greenhouse gases and which must be confident that an expensive new power station will stay profitable for several years. And yes, before you rush to the comment button, there are important downsides, too. I&#8217;ll explore some of those below.</p>
<p>With all that in mind, we investigated two different basic scenarios. One applied an economy-wide carbon tax that aimed to raise 1% of GDP in revenue by 2020; the other applied a tax set at a level designed to ensure that Britain meets its commitment to cut emissions by 34%, relative to their 1990 levels, by 2020. In both cases, to keep things simple, we scrapped all the other policies that aim at the same outcome, such as Britain&#8217;s membership of Europe&#8217;s emissions-trading scheme, subsidies for renewable energy and so on. The results of the first scenario are set out in the print piece, but briefly, electricity prices fall as expensive subsidies for renewable energy are replaced by the carbon tax. That provides an economic boost, the government gets an extra revenue stream, and output is 2.5% higher come 2020 than in the baseline scenario. Somewhat embarassingly, emissions of carbon are slightly higher than in the baseline scenario. But we chose 1% of GDP as our target figure for convenience more than anything else. There&#8217;s no reason the tax couldn&#8217;t be tweaked a little to reduce emissions, although a high enough tax would presumably start to drag GDP back down again. At any rate, the modeling strongly suggests that a tax would be much more efficient than the present arrangements.</p>
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		<title>By: Climate: integrated left or post-partisan?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Climate: integrated left or post-partisan?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 15:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] is something that can be integrated into the political traditions of the right in several ways. Conservatives should love carbon taxes, since they are a mechanism to keep one person&#8217;s behaviour from impacting unduly on the [...]</description>
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